REVIEW: A Preliminary Investigation of Energy Return on Energy Investment for Global Oil and Gas Production
Posted by David Murphy on July 28, 2009 - 9:20am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Geology/Exploration
Tags: charles hall, eroi, extraction, lysle brinker, nate gagnon, natural gas, net energy, oil [list all tags]
This post reviews a paper by Nate Gagnon, Charles Hall and Lysle Brinker titled: “A Preliminary Investigation of Energy Return on Energy Investment for Global Oil and Gas Production,” published recently in the peer-reviewed journal Energies. The lead author was my colleague for two years at SUNY-ESF and the second author is currently my Ph.D. advisor and has published numerous guest posts here on The Oil Drum. See here for a list of previous posts relating to work by Dr. Charles Hall, and here to download a full-text PDF of this paper.
EROI of Global Oil and Gas Production

The Net Hubbert Curve: What Does It Mean?
Posted by David Murphy on June 22, 2009 - 10:30am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Supply/Production
Tags: cutler cleveland, david murphy, eroi, gross energy, m. king hubbert, net energy, net hubbert, original, peak oil, positive feedback [list all tags]
Cutler Cleveland of Boston University has reported that the EROI of oil and gas extraction in the U.S. has decreased from 100:1 in the 1930’s to 30:1 in the 1970’s to roughly 11:1 as of 2000 (Figure 1). But beyond the fact that society receives currently around 11 barrels of oil for every 1 barrel that it spends getting that oil, What does this mean?

Figure 1. Plot of three estimations of EROI for U.S. oil and gas.
A Net Energy Parable Revisited
Posted by Nate Hagens on May 28, 2009 - 10:03am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Alternative energy
Tags: eroi, net energy [list all tags]
Besides water, energy is the most important substance for life on the planet. For most organisms energy is embodied in the food they eat, be it bugs, nuts or gazelles. The excess of energy consumed to energy expended (net energy) has been integral in the evolution of the structure and form of present day organisms.
Using Thermodynamics to (Re)Examine Environmental Kuznets Curves
Posted by David Murphy on May 11, 2009 - 10:01am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Environment/Sustainability
Tags: ekc, environmental economics, environmental kuznets curve, eroi guy, first law, original, thermodynamics [list all tags]
The Environmental Kuznets Curve (henceforth EKC) was developed from a paper written by Simon Kuznets in 1955 titled Economic Growth and Income Inequality. His theory explained that the relationship between economic growth and income inequality forms an inverted U-shape graph with income inequality on the y-axis and economic growth (e.g. GDP/capita) on the x-axis. EKCs extend Kuznets’ original theory by stating that pollution increases as economies grow from agrarian to industrial, but as the population becomes wealthier a turning point is passed after which the amount of pollution decreases as income grows, forming an inverted U-shape (Figure 1). As such, EKC theory has been cited as a justification to prioritize economic development over environmental stewardship (Beckerman, 1992), and just last week the science reporter for the New York Times, John Tierney, wrote an article claiming exactly the same thing: “The richer everyone gets, the greener the planet will be in the long run.”
Further Evidence of the Influence of Energy on the U.S. Economy
Posted by David Murphy on April 16, 2009 - 11:11am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Economics/Finance
Tags: dot-com bubble, economy, energy, eroi guy, finance, housing bubble, oil crisis, original, petroleum expenditures, steve balogh [list all tags]

EROI Update: Preliminary Results using Toe-to-Heel Air Injection
Posted by David Murphy on March 18, 2009 - 9:27am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Supply/Production
Tags: alberta, bitumen, daveinmarinca, eroi, horizontal wells, net energy, original, petrobank, sagd, tar sands, thai, toe-to-heel [list all tags]
In August 2007, a post titled Extracting Heavy Oil: Using Toe to Heel Air Injection (THAI) introduced readers of The Oil Drum to a technology for producing an upgraded extra-heavy oil from Alberta Tar Sands without the environmentally messy and energy-intensive surface mining procedures that currently dominate extraction. The post provided a first-look at producing and partially upgrading Alberta bitumen in situ. In this post we make preliminary estimates of the Energy Return on Investment (EROI) of the THAI process.
The Alberta Tar Sands continued to garner interest through the first half of 2008 because of declining conventional oil production in Canada, the apparent success of the Steam Assisted Gravity Drainage (SAGD) process and the increasing price of crude oil. Today they are still of interest as the countries of North America (and around the world) desire cheap, abundant crude oil from politically stable regions (See Unconventional Oil: Tar Sands and Shale Oil - EROI on the Web, Part 3 of 6). However the subsequent financial collapse during the second half of 2008 has caused many tar sand projects to be deferred. In fact, Canada's oil-sands industry has hit the skids, spreading a deepening gloom over Alberta's economy, and to some degree, across the country. Some expansion projects that were under way in the Fort McMurray region have been put on the shelf, as oil companies slash their budgets to reflect the new economic environment in which they operate – that is – a world of lower oil demand and, at least compared to the summer of 2008, low oil prices.
Some Thoughts on the Obama Energy Agenda from the Perspective of Net Energy
Posted by David Murphy on February 9, 2009 - 10:16am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Policy/Politics
Tags: barack obama, electricity, eroi guy, ethanol, gross energy, net energy, oil sands, original, solar power, wind [list all tags]
The Obama-Biden comprehensive a New Energy for America Plan is designed to:
- Help create five million new jobs by strategically investing $150 billion over the next ten years to catalyze private efforts to build a clean energy future.
- Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined.
- Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars -- cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon -- on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America.
- Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable sources by 2012, and 25 percent by 2025.
- Implement an economy-wide cap-and-trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050
The Obama energy agenda focuses on - and these are not mutually exclusive - efficiency, electrification, and the promotion of alternative energy resources. Its five main goals are set up in a way so that success in any one of the five individual areas will reinforce the other 4, helping the overall agenda achieve success. For example, creating 25% of the U.S. electricity production from renewable resources (goal #4) will aid in decreasing the U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 80% (goal #5).
The energy agenda is a welcomed change showing a future outlook that is based, at least to some [small] extent, on the physical realities of the natural resource world. However, from the perspective of net energy, some potential problems do exist. My goal here is to discuss some possible shortcomings of the new administrations energy agenda from the perspective of net energy.
The Effect of Natural Gradients on the Net Energy Profits from Corn Ethanol
Posted by David Murphy on January 13, 2009 - 12:09pm in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Alternative energy
Tags: biofuel, corn, energy profits, eroi, eroi guy, ethanol, gradients, net energy, original [list all tags]
Scaling biofuels from the level of the laboratory or pilot-plants to commercial production is the Achilles’ Heel of almost all biofuels. One major problem is that biofuels use feedstocks that are invariably less energy dense than their fossil fuel counterparts. For example, there are approximately 45 MJ per kilogram contained in both the finished product of gasoline and crude oil, while ethanol has an energy density of about 26 MJ per kilogram and corn has only 16 MJ per kilogram. In general, this means that large amounts of corn must be grown and harvested to equal even a small portion of our gasoline consumption on an energy equivalent level, which will undoubtedly expand the land area that is impacted by the production process of corn-based ethanol.

Figure 1. Map of the optimal gradient space for the production of corn-based ethanol within the United States. Colors correspond to EROI numbers listed in the figure caption. The grey areas represent locations without a significant amount of corn-production.
Implications of Energy Return on Investment, Peak Oil and the Concept of “Best First”
Posted by David Murphy on January 2, 2009 - 11:23am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Miscellaneous
Tags: best first, charles hall, david ricardo, depletion, eroei, eroi, eroi guy, natural gas, peak oil [list all tags]
The following is a post by both Dr. Charles Hall and EROI Guy. Most of the material comes from a recently published book chapter titled “Peak oil, EROI, investments and the economy in an uncertain future.” The book can be found here. Dr. Charles Hall is a professor of Systems Ecology at the College of Environmental Science and Forestry in Syracuse, New York, and has written about energy issues many times on The Oil Drum, found here.
Welcome to The Oil Drum: EROI
Posted by David Murphy on December 28, 2008 - 6:17pm in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Site news
Tags: charles hall, eroi, eroi guy, introduction, net energy [list all tags]
We welcome all readers to the newest TOD sub-domain: "The Oil Drum: EROI" – or Energy Return on Investment. This sub-domain will be administered by Professor Charles Hall and his Ph.D. Student, David Murphy (EROI Guy) as well as by many of the other editors and contributors from TOD that write about net energy analysis and biophysical economic concepts.
We have at our school (SUNY – College of Environmental Science and Forestry) an “EROI Institute” (web site is operational, but still undergoing development) which is basically three offices, two relatively large, and a bunch of books and computers. There are roughly 8 graduate students at any one time and usually about half a dozen undergraduates hanging around. We all work on sweating out various analyses related to energy. We have only quite minimal funding and work on a shoestring although many students are supported by NSF fellowships, teaching assistantships or funding that we do have for tropical research. So with that introduction, let us turn our attention briefly to describing why we think EROI is important.

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